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10/13/2013

Photographing Art Products and Models Simple Kit for Photographers to make your art and Products look attractive and Appealing



Photographing art, models, products most of the time now we know in the best photographs , it all depends upon the right way to photograph. While we buy good quality high resolution digital cameras we hardly pay attention to the background which really matters a lot in the end result of the success of your photograph. We can at home photograph our products and art easily using a black muslin backdrop cloth or with an easy kit available online on photography material websites with 32 inch umbrella lighting kit with 10 feet telescopic background support and three 9 feet backdrops. 
Black, a dark color brings out the beauty of any product and also is easy to highlight the product with proper lighting.  A good 20 feet ( L) x 10 feet (W). Ideal for any portrait, costume, product photography, large object photography, the black muslin cloth backdrop is good for photographers. This one is very essential for professional photographers,  a must for their profession.
Black color is great to highlight any products and it brings out the beauty in the product. An important tip while selecting a cloth for photographing your art is that to look carefully and see the cloth has no stitching lines as this shows in the high resolution photograph.
The black backdrop muslin cloth when laid properly on a metal stand makes a beautiful contrasting backdrop for any object or art. While taking photographs of models the simple black backdrop brings out the total focus on the live model and covers the other objects and colors fighting for attention in the surrounding environment.
Gem Stone Jewellery Photograph
The assembled photography kit available at many online websites having different backdrop curtains highlight your art and models as well as objects and creates a good portfolio photographing very easy. Now with most sales online we really need good photographs to sell our goods and art pieces. Digital images of high resolution photographed judiciously using proper lighting and backdrop sure effects the sales of your products.
photographing goods for online sales
The backdrop material needs to be soft, non reflecting and seamless. Umbrellas are an important part of photographing your art and objects as they help to focus light in proper perspective and avoid shadows on the final image. A good quality umbrella along with tripod has good adjustable stands as well as locking arrangements to keep the umbrella in one position for photographing the objects displayed.
photographing jewellery
Photo reflectors also are an important part of good photography. 5 in 1 foldable photo light reflectors are another important photography kit accessory needed to click great photographs of art. They help to focus light and also avoid shadows by creating a glow on the final object to be photographed.  This  kit is not only helpful for professional model photography and art photography but also for websites who sell products online, like jewellery, containers, ceramic goods, gemstones jewellery, car, and just about anything can be easily uploaded online with good quality images.
Buying a complete photography kit once helps for years to create beautiful photographs and make good quality portfolios. A must for professional photographers this kit and  products are also needed by online selling websites to upload great good quality images of their goods.  A very profitable investment.

10/03/2013

White and Black the Magic of Simple Black and White Paintings Drawings Symbolism in White and Black

White and Black , only two colors, simple black and white pencil drawings, pen drawings and sketches have a beauty of their own. Not only does making sketches and drawings require refined hand control but also a lot of experience and though I am not very good at this during the process of understanding  myself there have come up a few good drawings and pencil skecthes.
Be it a process of personal discovery, a process of emerging with personal style or a soul searching pathway towards the spiritual path of enlightenment, these simple drawings have a beauty and simplicity of their own.
White of the original paper, the emptiness that emerges as form when it is touched by black pencil or charcoal, is just like giving life to the lifeless emptiness of the white. The paper itself on no value just emerges as an prized piece of art when touched by the artist. While portrait artists do loads of hard work in getting the portrait drawing right the effort really works magic, catching the expressions on face, the eyes, on paper with such a limited palette, white and black.
White and black two very very powerful colors in the whole color filed have immense symbolism.  As in feng shui we see these  two colors having strong powerful energy of the Yin and the Yang. The universal Tibetan Tao symbol of Yin and Yang, seen around the globe in so many different forms,  is a sure great example of this white and black color symbolism. Black represents Yin , passive, negative, downward energy force. The other color white represent active, upward growth ,  white with its aura of beauty and peace sure is enough to bring in lots of positive energy.
Good luck Ship of Prosperity Pencil Drawing on Paper by Rizwana

Spiritual Habitat Pencil Drawing

Prized Possessions Pencil drawing Series by rizwana

Prized Possessions Pencil drawing Series by rizwana

Prized Possessions Pencil drawing Series by rizwana

Trans Connection with Guides, a spiritual pen drawing by Razarts

Trans Connection with Guides, a spiritual pen drawing by Razarts

Meerabai Eternal pen Drawing Series

Spiritual Symbolic Pencil Sketch

Symbolic Pen drawing on Paper

Pencil drawing white and black on paper

Pencil Drawing on paper
Pencil Drawing on paper

Enchanting Kerala pencil drawing
Pen Drawing Mira Bai Eternal
Water color white and black painting
Pencil drawings, pencil sketches are what every artist does try at sometime or other  of their career, maybe a process of learning art or trying different styles in painting to discover their signature style. 
Pencil sketches and pen drawings also sell fast as they are reasonably priced and affordable.
Charcoal drawings give freedom to express with this simple medium  of limited palette and white along with black brings out  the hidden beauty on the paper.
Simple drawing on paper
While artists specializing in drawings and sketches churn out very refined pencil artworks this is more than quite difficult as seen to the eye. Some tips for drawing neatly with pencil - 1)keep an good eraser and white muslin cloth handy  to erase any mistakes in drawings.2)  Keep your  hand steady a big ruler or stick helps here or keep a box or table edge,  for supporting your hand so that your hand does not touch the drawed  part.3) Practice Practice and Practice,pencil sketches portraits and drawings need lots of practice.
Pencil drawing on paper  white and black
While drawing pencil sketches one has to be very very careful as the black of lead charcoal may spoil the whole artwork. So many different numbers of pencils are used in making pencil drawings and artworks and each with its size brings out a different look to the drawings. Shading is an important part of every drawing as it provides the much needed texture to the white and black art.
There are some artists who make huge pencil charcoal works done on large papers, and the spiritual works look great when framed. When hung on any colored walls or white walls they sure bring another magical level of serenity and aura to the place.
While on this spiritual journey of The Red Pilgrim, as I continue to paint healing art...I wish to make simple colorful understandable art, art that heals.
You can buy paintings from my website shipping is free.
www.razarts.com

9/19/2013

Child's Play Making Abstracts Why Artists Choose to Make Abstract Symbolic Paintings

Overflowing Pot, symbolic abstract oil painting on paper by Rizwana
Making  abstracts is child's play, very often heard this statement , usually from people who do not know about art, beauty and aesthetics, and do not even try to  understand this. With art taking its place in every home today people are opening up to the concept of bringing beauty in their home, their hearts and their lives.
While abstract painting has to do more with art styles,  painting techniques and selection of colors people often wonder why artists choose to make abstract art, when they have so many options, like nature floral painting, landscape painting, still life, cubism geometric , fantasy, pop art, portraits etc.which sell faster and also bring good price.
Untitled oil painting by rizwana
 Painting abstracts  is no child's play it is much much more than the blob of  color you see or the strokes made on the layering of paint on the vast whiteness of the canvas.
Spiritual abstract painting by rizwana
Total symbolic spiritual abstracts painted in year 2001 till a few years I have immensely enjoyed making this first step towards abstraction. So while I loved the flow of positive energy in these abstract artworks the collection just went on and on till approximately 250 abstract spiritual works on paper!  The freedom to choose color, the freedom to lay color  right from the tubes, the twisting and turning of paper, and emergence of beauty, an abstract art.
As  I notice the collection today these seem an connection with hidden shapes, hidden symbols,  colorful energy vibrations . Now the works have much more focus and refined works ,  think my art has gone the other way from abstraction towards form. The journey so far has been enriching and have enjoyed every piece of making art.
Here a few  randomly selected abstract symbolic paintings done on paper using oil paints.
Untitled Symbolic abstract oil painting on paper
 It is the abandon of all barriers which allows the artist total freedom to paint. Some artists meditate and then imagine the forms and then begin painting abstract. Then there are some who try out different painting styles and techniques, the layering as in color field painting, the use of objects, stamping, use of sponge, use of geometric instruments and in fact just about any way to make a new original piece of art, what we call, abstract art. Scribbling is art, lines are art, object painting, stamping is art, scratching paints is art, there are immense possibilities  in abstract art, leading to a temporary halt,  result,  a beautiful work of abstract art.
Spiritual abstract painting
 The difference between a child's art and an evolved artists' abstract art, is the choice, selection, thought  processes, and emotions behind the use of color, technique and making of an abstract art painting. Some artists paint listening to music, some inspired by poems, songs, books paint abstract symbolic art as an expression extension of this  ideas and emotions.
Abstract Untitled Painting by Rizwana A.Mundewadi
 One thing I agree is common between child's art and an evolved artists art, the abandon  , freedom of painting, this is the same, an abstract artist very often regresses to the original true nature of every human being , that is innocence, love and compassion, which is visible in their abstract symbolic spiritual art. While a child paints for personal happiness so does the abstract artist make art, not bothering about the sequence of the color flow, the choice of colors, or the end result, it is the process, the journey that is enjoyable and here the destination is not important.
While a child who does not know that a circle has to be perfect round, a square has to have even four corners,  an abstract artist after studying, practicing so much art and having knowledge , evolved so much in life experiences, has to come to terms with total abandon, erase the information learned,  and paint these beautiful sacred shapes, with pure innocence.
Artists choose to make abstract art after evolving, after practicing , after breaking free from the physical forms and then leading towards abstraction. There is a lot of hard work involved before reaching this spiritual enlightened stage. As our eyes view abstract paintings each one tries to find out meanings, interpret that abstract painting, and believe me  it is always different, for different viewers, that's the magic of abstract art.
Spiritual   abstract oil painting

Symbolic abstract oil painting on paper by Raz

Spiritual abstract oil painting on paper by Rizwana
While on this spiritual journey of The Red Pilgrim, as I continue to paint healing art...I wish to make simple colorful understandable art, art that heals.
www.razarts.com

9/11/2013

Yin Yang Paintings Symbolism Meaning Why Buy Yin Yang paintings

Yin yang paintings and the symbol of Yin Yang is seen in paintings , materials , dresses scarfs, T shirts and even as tattoos. This Tao symbol of Tibetan origin is universally accepted as representing the two energies Yin, that is female and Yang that is male.
It is believed that every individual , everything, every object is  made up of tow   types of energies, active and passive. Colors representing these two types of energies when used in any painting  bring out harmony and well being. Every home and office must be a combination of two types of energies to bring harmony and good luck.
Male energy, the Yang energy is represented by energy colors  like vibrant, bright, shiny, colors of reds,oranges, yellows and golds! Female energy, Yin energy is represented by colors that are more darker, passive in energy, black, dark reds blues, purples etc.
Any energy in different levels makes the individual and the family environment in imbalance which is seen in ill health and restlessness anger.
For us to understand the Yin yang aspect of every object we must find out what response our senses are giving out for a particular color or object. When we wear a red dress or see red we feel energetic and alive whereas the same dress in grey turns our mood sober and toned down. Try being near vibrant yellow red gold cushions and  then dull brown black ones you will immediately feel the difference in energy.
Every home must reflect the energy of the inmates.  When one loves sober neutral colors go in for minimum vibrant highlights in room in form of paintings , cushions, plants, upholstery or knick knacks. Too much color will harm the chi of the room. In offices, board rooms and hotels,  where more energy is required add a touch of vibrancy in form of colorful symbolic or geometric paintings.
Yin Yang representing two type of energy forces the symbol always has the darker Yin pulling down energy and the Yang white, pulling upward direction of energy.
While Yin Yang paintings have taken a much creative turn we see paintings done in many different sizes, colors and images painting techniques of Yin Yang paintings.

Floating Treasures Big Size Symbolic painting on Canvas

Yin Yang Symbol Small Oil Painting on Canvas
The Midas Star Reiki Feng Shui Oil Painting on Paper

Spiritual Gateway Symbolic painting on canvas Framed in wooden frame


Yin Yang Symbol Small Painting on Canvas
Why buy Yin Yang painting when you can get a print out very cheap or the symbol in any form?  Here comes the difference between any image or poster of Yin and Yang and an original healing painting of Yin and Yang symbol. The energy put in the healing artwork by the healing symbolic artist, the colors used by the artist and their personal energy all in all make this beautiful Yin Yang symbol painting power packed with loads of positive energy and thus balance the environment where this Yin Yang painting is hung. The intentions of the artist will flow in all directions and thus make this a beautiful artwork to be displayed in any place to uplift and balance energy.
Complete Happiness
While on this spiritual journey of The Red Pilgrim, as I continue to paint healing art...I wish to make simple colorful understandable art, art that heals.
www.razarts.com

9/07/2013

Simple Sweet water fall Paintings Understanding Golden Rain Symbolic Painting

Rains in the sky Rainbows in my heart, symbolic cubism abstract painting
 Simple sweet water fall colorful paintings, small paintings   done at one sitting are always beautiful and project a rare special aura of happiness.  Colors in themselves speak, sacred geometry symbols, shapes speak for themselves in cubism artworks and many times the viewer is drawn to these magical shapes and colors in a abstract painting.
Place these water fall paintings in the best Feng Shui sector, which loves the element water, north. They not only look beautiful but also attract great opportunities, wealth and business luck.

Today I take two beautiful paintings abstract cubism and try to explain in simple these colorful artworks. "Rains in the Sky rainbows  in My heart, a colorful   painting done on oil sketch paper in year 2005. While it was a rare experience to see the rainbow from my window in rainy season in the year 2005, the emotions came out as a colorful painting on paper.
Waterfalls overflowing in rains are the most beautiful sight and as  we are surrounded by beautiful  hills  and mountains the region  becomes quite enchanting during rainy season.
The happiness, feelings emotions of being free to experience the sky, connected directly with the universe, the fresh fragrance of Flowers and the newly wet soil , all in all brought about this colorful painting. With the one rainbow when I imagined the total measure of happiness , it was unlimited, hence the concept came up of rainbows in my heart.
Size of this colorful nature cubism abstract artwork is 10x14 Inches oil paints on oil sketch paper.
With the  same innocent happiness again, feelings of impulsive total happiness came up this colorful simple painting in rainy season, August 2013

While on this spiritual journey of The Red Pilgrim, as  I continue to paint healing art...I wish to make simple colorful understandable art, art that heals.
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Golden Energies Classic Black and White
All the Best from Rizwana!
Take Care and God Bless!

9/03/2013

Abstract Sold, Why Abstracts are Selling Fast Understanding Abstract Paintings


Abstracts are selling fast, not because of the price or size but because people are understanding and loving colors and the fantasy, hidden meanings, symbolism in abstracts. While a bold red abstract takes a prominent place on a huge white wall in the corporate meeting room, only this is sufficient for the decor and energy of the whole room.
Focus by interior designers on more of contemporary style themes , paintings are an important part of any decor. While people used to buy landscapes , always on the top selling paintings list, with importance on feng shui and simple life style, abstracts are coming up as fast selling works.
Color laying, color brushing, and different techniques using color paints brings out a magical result laid on canvasses. Understanding abstracts was quite a fill and people,  art lovers would shy away from abstracts as lay people would just say it is painted like a child or simple color and it becomes difficult to command higher prices for an abstract painting.
The Red Dot Symbolic Abstract Oil on Oil Sketch paper, US$699 in galleries, Year 2003

Freedom , year 2000 Oil on Canvas Framed

Destiny Geometric Cubism Abstract Painting Oil on Oil Sketch Paper Year 2005,  Price US $ 1000

Cubism Abstract First Abstracts Set of Five Year 2000 on Linen

Abstract Symbolic Still Life SOLD
Spiritual abstracts , symbolic abstracts look good and bring about feelings of peace and the colors used are chosen judiciously to make an art statement. With energy colors red, orange and stability colors like brown and cream, blue being a spiritual color purple a rich color representing royalty,  my favorite colors golden the ultimate color my symbolic spiritual works lay lots of importance on color symbolism.
Abstract Painting SOLD, Year 2005Why abstracts are selling fast
When art lovers and art buyers love to buy abstract paintings , usually the choice of paintings is done by the color combinations in the artwork. When I have spoken to people,  their choice while buying abstract art, is on physical colors and of course the main concept and emotions behind the making of an artwork.
An abstract artist has a tough time sometimes in explaining the processes and thoughts behind the making  of an  artwork, especially with color field painting technique,  where the paintings at a glance look like total red or orange or strands stripes of colors. While people and art lovers are now opening up on buying abstract art more and more interior designers are opting for abstracts as they blend into any themed  decor. Contemporary style  designs and lifestyle furniture along with modern abstract art  are the in thing and hence more and more abstracts are selling fast.
Symbolic abstracts have also found a way into hotels and as these paintings lay more emphasis  on colors and textures they can go along with any decor and walls.
Abstract paintings give the viewer a pleasant trip to another level of realm. The fantasy aspect in an abstract work is the greatest USP of any abstract. Each viewer views the abstract painting differently and we can get many many explanations of the same painting by different viewers.
While each individual views and experiences  symbolic spiritual abstracts differently this is also affected by their upbringing and the environment, socio economic strata they come from. It feels great when art lovers view the paintings and see the many images and pictures which were  not put there intentionally by the abstract artist. The best part comes when an abstract art piece becomes a point of conversation and discussion, with every person putting their point forward.
An abstract artist paints using various techniques in painting, with brush, spray, scratching technique,  end tip of brush, cloth, sponge, combs, geometrical instruments, paint knives, and even fingers!direct contact with skin, paint flows  almost like second skin and makes  beautiful fantasy forms on the canvas.
While on this spiritual journey of The Red Pilgrim, as I continue to paint healing art... I wish to make simple colorful understandable art, art that heals.
You may view some more of my art here, Take Care and God Bless!
Absolute Arts
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8/28/2013

How to do Commissioned Work Tips for commissioned work Latest paintings and Mixed Emotions Alexandrine Parakeet

Latest Paintings Confident Strokes Symbolic Abstract Oil paintings
 As the feelings of sadness, heaviness in heart, left him free to fly since three days no sound, hope he is fine. While was busy with commissioned work , small paintings, symbolic abstracts , nature was at work. As the new alexandrine who was found nearly a month back looked healthy and could fly well, experimented with letting him fly in the sky, once found, this time as have left him there is no sound am worried, hope he comes back soon.
Commissioned work is a part of every artists life and as we all love to have work at hand this is also the most difficult part in our profession.
Tips for taking Commissioned Work Paintings-
1) Decide upon the budget for commissioned work. Usually the client  has a fixed approximate budget for the art works they require, number of paintings, medium of paintings and size of paintings commissioned. Discuss this clearly with the client, corporate or private art collectors, buyers of art.
2) Communicate with the  client what style they want the paintings- abstract, nature, still life, portraits, usually clients have specific demands for the paintings they want to be made. This again is clear when the client chooses to give commission to  an artist, only after reviewing their past work of art.
3)Colors they love and would like to be incorporated in their customized artwork also can be discussed.  As  I do lots of symbolic abstracts and lay utmost importance on feng shui colors , and effects of colors on mind, color psychology, color therapy, it would be better to understand whether the client loves energy colors , earth colors or spiritual colors.
4) Time when they commissioned works are required. This is very important from both sides, the client as well as the artist. They may have a certain function, occasion when they wish to present, gift, the commissioned pieces of paintings, or unfold some special paintings on certain special occasions coinciding with their profession.
5) For the artist the time taken too make paintings, number of artworks and the time taken for drying well, all must be considered before committing, deciding on the date for any commissioned art.  The artist can well in advance let people know how long before they need to get the order and the time they take to deliver the paintings.
6) Only take those orders who you can do justice to, by time and by work, sometimes due to time crunch the artist loaded with responsibility and pressure to complete a certain number of paintings within a fixed time suddenly get an artists block. They are not able to do justice to the commissioned artwork and this is reflected in their paintings  and by choice of colors.
7)  Relax, free your mind and then begin commissioned work, this helps. Take a break before, nature  walk also help, take time sharpening your skills, prepare to paint , spend more time preparing for teh ideas, colors, thoughts,  , and then go for it. The flow comes out naturally.
8) All commissioned order of paintings must be finished on time. Keep in mind the loyalty , and responsibility you as an artist have to submit the work on time. Reputation and work habits , style or working , professionalism always helps, even for artists.
9) While working on commissioned work, some artists  prefer to  keep showing drafts, or how the work is progressing to the client, the thought that they can make changes while working on a painting  instead of showing the complete painting for approval of the client. This will save time and also help to give the required result artwork   that satisfies the buyers.  Sometimes this becomes quite a  pain as usually lay people , clients who do not have any knowledge of colors or styles, and they may get confused as well as confuse the artist, so your individual choice in this term.
10) Finish the paintings on time, pack them well, commissioned art is not just about paintings but also sending the package on time. Commissioned paintings involve the whole process of painting, packing well and your work reaching the destination at the earliest or on time scheduled by the client, is a great way to invite more attractive commissioned works later.
All the Best!
Friendly Alexandrine Parakeet male
Confident strokes, Untitled, abstract painting on oil sketch paper



My Best Friend Alexandrine Parakeet

Loving to Chew possessive about his perch
As he would sit on a natural perch, wooden branch, and live on the window sill, he had become very possessive about his territory.
I am not aware of what lessons in compassion nature universe is teaching me, the loss   just become unbearable, first to care, love and then to leave, as about the female Alexandrine  parakeet who had lived with us free for two and half years.
As this one had come in distress, and I was given by the next building people, the time flew by caring , feeding, him but as he looked confident, I had to let go, the most difficult part, hoping he would come back, think some one has caught him,a s he would answer my whistles with his every time.

8/19/2013

The Heart of Love Reiki symbolic healing painting with our new love Alexandrine parakeet, Blood Donation Camp


new friend alexandrine bird from paradise
With Alexandrine bird from paradise, the one we had has been caught since past eight months , still no news from her, this one had been stranded on a top floor of a house , people who did not wish to keep him, so here he is, learning to fly, eat healthy, bathe, and of course scream!!!he loves to be pampered!
borrowed cage for the new arrival till he is trained out

enjoying the view from the window sitting on a wooden perch
 The bestest feeling ever, when he flew the top of our buildings and took six to eight rounds and landed, he even answered my calls with whistles,
chameli creeper in full swing, fragrant flowers
 another very heavenly fragrant plant, chameli, jasmine , white flowers in full swung this year, fully loaded with fragrance in the rains! I did not pluck any, as  I do not apply any hair floral decorations, and also flowers live better on plants and for longer time.,
After reading a piece,  Buddha had mentioned that he saw the plant bleed  after plucking a flower, so just do not pluck when there is no need
chameli jasmine flowering plant healthy blooms

enjoying fresh vegetables

white fragrant flowers on the chameli bel

Blood donation Camp on 15th August 2013

doing my very very little bit, first time attended a blood donation camp, feels great!

Every year with the rains I would paint like  wild, this year am focussing the energy, as  thoughts take round and round somersaults in my mind, with sufism and healing, along with happiness maybe some artwork in line.  do not know what and when as the canvas lies still., my hands are full with caring for birds!
Pink hearts of Love painting displayed in contemporary rose gold decor

This painting with the color of love, pink, a soothing healing color of love and compassion, pink paintings rule the heart and somehow make the environment more friendly , open and comfortable.
While I had painted strokes as waves , love waves in pink first, the image of heart, symbolic of love and compassion was  enough, but the symbols used, Chinese symbols, simple,  give another meaning to the artwork, it is better to understand the energy of the painting and also symbols itself guide and direct the brain to produce positive energy, and as each viewer views the artwork, they themselves are the creators of their positive energy , 
Soul mates with true love, a connection with the universal life force, not just romantic love but universal love for nature and the universe. I have always understood that love is a more wider, much deeper and of different level emotion. Never limit this to physical body or romantic love. Here we lay a lot of important on compassion, self love, you cannot give love unless you are joyful from within. Most of the worldly emotional relationship turmoil's come from deeper causes which are never handled. Most people die without actually experiencing true pure love emotions. 

A very good feng shui painting for attracting positive energy in love and marital life as well as  family relationships and to attract the right partner, display in the bedroom south west wall  for best healing  results.  Pink color symbolism is since ages a representation of love and compassion.
Spiritual love, romantic love,  and the love for universe,
"spread positivity and love around", sit for a while, think, focus energy of love and send this gift to the people around, the people you care for, the people you love, the plants, the pets, the universe, try it, it works! be then , prepared for the showering of gifts from the universe, many many folds.
All the Best! Best of Luck, Take Care and God Bless from Rizwana!


Happy Winged Heart art for joy! 
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